My 05 XT was an auto, and was what sold me on turbos and fun driving cars. I had no idea at the time. I just through a car got me from here to there. . . . . .
I would talk with traildogck over on subaruoutback.org when you get serious enough to consider buying to get a sense of cost. He's in pretty deep with his mods (20k?) but has going whole hog in. He will be happy to tell you the best setup for what you want, which will save you boatloads
Good to know its fun even with the auto. I'm its more fun the 3.0 Outback but I bet the 3.0 is fun enough too with overall power. Nothing replaces that feeling when the boost kicks in though. I'll keep traildogck in mind. I'll look him up to see what he has done.
The wonderful thing about Subarus is the suspension is all pretty much the same, so changing the shocks/springs on an outback is no different than doing the same on a legacy. Its just a bit higher off the ground.
Personally, I think the 2005-2009 legacy/outback is too small for a family the 2010+ is much more roomy and prices will not be drastically different. I think my legacy has more 2nd row room than our tribeca.
I havent had the chance to compare them, but is the 2010 really that much bigger? I just like the look of the 05/09's more than any other Outback gen so far. Part of the reason I was set on that gen was due to the availability of the XT. If I go the H6 route then my options will broaden a bit.
Yeah the leg room is crazy in the second row with the seats all the way back. The versatility of the Tribeca is surprising if you utilize the space right.
I would go h6...and yes its a big difference. More space everywhere. I can fit five grown overweight men in my legacy no problem. It's a lot slower mind you but we all fit.
Autonews expects to see something debut at Los Angels Show in November! I am guessing there will a concept in November and maybe in summer of 2018 we will see the actual car.
Quote from the Autonews about the 7 seater:
"Seven-seat crossover: Subaru's new three-row crossover -- which will replace the Tribeca -- will go on sale in 2018 and be produced in Indiana. Not many details have been released, and there's no decent spy art. The crossover is expected to debut at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November.
Subaru has to get the seven-seater right to cash in on the hot midsize crossover segment. "
I keep bugging an old buddy who works at Lafayette to tell me what's going on with the new 7-pass, but he won't tell me a thing. So unless he's been demoted, either SOA isn't doing anything or they're keeping a very tight lip on things (or he's just f-ing with me).
Thanks! Looks good enough to wait for, check out the extra way back room past the rear tire should be space for a third seat and some light luggage. Maybe the minivan doesn't have to happen after all.
Obviously the grille, headlights, and taillights are just stolen from other models, but what I find interesting are the C and D pillars, which appear to be fairly vertical, indicating that Subaru went for interior space over exterior appearance/sleekness. Obviously with that cladding, it's impossible to tell exactly how it will look, but it looks boxy and functional, which I like a lot.
Looks like the 6th gen legacy style grille and sort of scaled up forester/outback blend of style, hopefully wide enough to actually sit three people in the second row!
My in-laws bought an explorer for the third row, it sucks. The split in the 2nd row is beyond ridiculous especially with seatbelt placement and sitting in the way back is comfortable for about 20 min tops. The rear door openings look nice and big until you open the door that is, the door skin overlaps the opening about 4-6 inches in some places. And the 2nd row seat sits forward of the opening to add insult to injury.
If this option doesn't pan out, at least an Odyssey or Sienna will be cheap enough on the used market.
My in-laws bought an explorer for the third row, it sucks. The split in the 2nd row is beyond ridiculous especially with seatbelt placement and sitting in the way back is comfortable for about 20 min tops. The rear door openings look nice and big until you open the door that is, the door skin overlaps the opening about 4-6 inches in some places. And the 2nd row seat sits forward of the opening to add insult to injury.
I was commenting on the space, not the seat configuration or interior design. Ford didn't do a very good job with the very boxy design of the Flex on the interior, either.
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