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Subaru just announced the pricing, so until people actually get the cars I doubt there will be much, as usual with any new model first few month it will probably be a sub-forum on nasioc. Then someone will make one.
 

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Took a close look at an Ascent today at a dealer. Nice car, but it isn’t a massive difference to our Tribecas. Taller and longer hood. Higher rear lift gate with similar space behind the third row. Nice interior with better materials for the dash etc....
The captain chairs in the second row allow easier access to the third row.
Of course better and more capable electronic packages, but that is really it.
This is more an evolution of a three row vehicle, but SOA wants to get the stink of the Tribeca off them. My wife wasn’t all that impressed and we both only wished for a bigger gas tank in the Tri.
We are also not fans of CVT transmissions.
 

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Never understood what people want from a two and a half ton vehicle MPG wise. These are big unaerodynamic vehicles. Only a diesel option would give a noticeable MPG bump. It’s science. 🤓
For people movers gas mileage needs to be acceptable not stellar. Noone is expecting 40 mpg, but mid 20s is plenty doable. Our Odyssey, which outweighs the tribeca easily, can manage 21 average and 28/29 on the highway without riding the slow lane and loaded down with people and stuff. This isn't just a shortcoming of the Tribeca, many SUVs have this problem.

The average on our 07 is right around 17 mpg and that is with an old lady driving it, literally. But that gas tank size is pretty sad as well, I recall only ever fitting about 11-12 gallons on fillups. My legacy takes 14.5-15 gallons when the light is on.
 

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Took a close look at an Ascent today at a dealer. Nice car, but it isn’t a massive difference to our Tribecas. Taller and longer hood. Higher rear lift gate with similar space behind the third row. Nice interior with better materials for the dash etc....
The captain chairs in the second row allow easier access to the third row.
Of course better and more capable electronic packages, but that is really it.
This is more an evolution of a three row vehicle, but SOA wants to get the stink of the Tribeca off them. My wife wasn’t all that impressed and we both only wished for a bigger gas tank in the Tri.
We are also not fans of CVT transmissions.
I'm am going to go out on a limb and say you didn't actually drive it.
The two cars are in different classes altogether and the Ascents price tag confirms that.
 

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I'm am going to go out on a limb and say you didn't actually drive it.
The two cars are in different classes altogether and the Ascents price tag confirms that.
He also didn't speak to the biggest difference - combined 2nd & 3rd row legroom.

"The space behind the 3rd row is about the same." So what? The Tribeca's space behind the 3rd row isn't what caused people who wanted a 3 row vehicle not to buy it, it was the lack of room for any more than 2 adults or children in both rear rows that was the issue.

The Ascent isn't class leading in terms of interior room (longitudinal layout and not being the longest in class) but it's not at the back of the pack, either and that's the most important thing to me - we're starting to feel pretty cramped in our Tribeca with the kids getting older and having friends, things, and booster/car seats to take up all that extra space.

Plus, as you said, they're totally different animals. The Tribeca was based on the 4th gen Legacy platform. The Ascent uses the global platform which will be coming soon to the 7th gen Legacy, it's a HUGE difference in terms of evolution and Subaru has way more R&D resources these last few years than they did when they designed the Tribeca.
 

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Even with limited resources, I think they did a really nice job with the Tribeca. Built like a tank (with the gas mileage to prove it).

My only wish was that it was a little bigger inside, and better gas mileage. Aside from those, mine was a great vehicle. I had a couple people mistake mine for an Audi (from the back)
 

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The tribeca third row was definitely a novelty, we used it once or twice in 6 years of ownership and my parents have never used it. What the Tribeca does well, it does really well and looks aside I always considered it competitive with other SUVs. I found it odd it was dinged on fuel mileage when it was on par with any other AWD offerings in the market.

I do think the Tribeca has the best AWD system Subaru ever made. We never had an issue with traction and it never felt like the front end was getting loose like the other subies we have had. I honestly think of the Tribeca as the perfect platform to build a project car from for me, if I only had the time and money, lol.
 

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Yeah, that 55/45 power split (R/F) really helped keep understeer in check. With a good set of tires, the Tribeca is pretty unstoppable.

Having driven more modern autos (like the ZF8 I had in my Charger), the Tribeca feels a bit unresponsive, but I think it was really good for its time.
 

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It would have been nice to see Subaru use an 8spd ZF in the Ascent and I think it would have really earned them some brownie points with the performance community to use a transmission with some potential and great reliability. But I would still give the HT CVT a shot, a couple local dealers here offer lifetime warranties on the powertrains so I will be looking into that, and we will probably buy our first extended warranty in a long long time. I worry about all the electronics, especially the cameras and sensors.
 

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I still maintain that the CVT is misunderstood and maligned unfairly, especially by enthusiasts. It's so easy to mistake smooth for slow without hard shifts keeping your attention. If anything, Subaru's CVTs just have long gearing that causes slower 0-60 times. I found, after owning a CVT in my Impreza, that they provided better passing performance up top because they maximized the powerband where I would have been struggling in a manual, even though the manuals feel peppier with their much shorter gearing at slower speeds. I still think CVTs are a great option for the general public, even if they aren't exciting.
 
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