Snow traction concern - SB9T.com
SB9T.com

Go Back   SB9T.com > Tribeca Technical > Wheels & Tires

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-28-2019, 02:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 4
Default Snow traction concern

Last winter my Nokian WRG3 SUV's were down to about 4 or 5 /32's. Several times when making 90 deg turns at intersections, the front tires would get into a couple of inches of snow when the rear tires would be in a little snow, and the front tires would snow plow and lose all traction. The result would be the Tribeca would partially turn. Eventually the front tires would get some traction and then the rear end would swing around. This would happen at about 10 mph, under light acceleration or coasting. Under these conditions I saw front wheel drive cars not having this behavior. With 5 / 32's I would expect better traction. Has anybody else experienced this?
Johnbuz is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 04-28-2019, 02:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 4
Default

A few more questions:
Do other people feel the need to use dedicated snow tires? I would hate to pay for TPMS reprogramming twice a year.

The Nokians are not a dedicated snow tire, but an all-weather with good snow ratings.

Is this behavior a result of the rear end having better traction than the front end, and the back just pushing the front? If so, this seems like a critical limitation of the VTD.

I was driving the same speed as traffic each time, or slower.

It seems to me like the Tribeca just loses front traction easily when making sharp low speed turns.
Johnbuz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2019, 06:05 AM   #3 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Chesterton, Indiana
Posts: 16
Default

I have Bridgestone Blizzak snow tires that I put on my Tribeca for winter driving and notice no such behavior. I have not measured the tread lately, but this was at least the fourth season using them.

I don't bother with TPMS for the winter set of wheels. I just make a point of checking pressure periodically... like we all used to before TPMS, lol. The light on all winter is annoying and I assume I'll burn out the bulb sooner than later.
klindstedt is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 04-29-2019, 10:01 AM   #4 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: WV Eastern Panhandle
Posts: 80
Default

With experience over 2 Winters with my ‘08 here in WV and equipped with O.E. Goodyear all season tires I have never experienced what you described. With the ‘97 Impreza Sport (Outback Jr) I owned years ago the back end would go out even with very light throttle going around a corner in slippery conditions.

Last edited by OliverB; 04-29-2019 at 10:05 AM.
OliverB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2019, 11:16 AM   #5 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: mid atlantic ish
Posts: 200
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnbuz View Post
Last winter my Nokian WRG3 SUV's were down to about 4 or 5 /32's. Several times when making 90 deg turns at intersections, the front tires would get into a couple of inches of snow when the rear tires would be in a little snow, and the front tires would snow plow and lose all traction. The result would be the Tribeca would partially turn. Eventually the front tires would get some traction and then the rear end would swing around. This would happen at about 10 mph, under light acceleration or coasting. Under these conditions I saw front wheel drive cars not having this behavior. With 5 / 32's I would expect better traction. Has anybody else experienced this?
You need new tires or an alignment.

Tread depth is a really poor indicator of older/used tire performance. I've seen 10/32nd's tires suck terribly in the snow.

They're too old or weren't stored well at some point in their life time. Seen it 100 times.
idosubaru is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2019, 11:32 AM   #6 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: mid atlantic ish
Posts: 200
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnbuz View Post
A few more questions:
Do other people feel the need to use dedicated snow tires? I would hate to pay for TPMS reprogramming twice a year.

The Nokians are not a dedicated snow tire, but an all-weather with good snow ratings.

Is this behavior a result of the rear end having better traction than the front end, and the back just pushing the front? If so, this seems like a critical limitation of the VTD.

I was driving the same speed as traffic each time, or slower.

It seems to me like the Tribeca just loses front traction easily when making sharp low speed turns.
Absolutely snow tires can have be a great fit.

Flat land, areas of really good snow maintenance/treatment/removal, or people with flexible/semi-flexible schedules mean you can get by with lesser tires.

Steep grades, poor winter maintenance, inflexible schedules increase the important of snow tire choices.
idosubaru is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2019, 05:06 PM   #7 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 4
Default

Thanks guys. I didn't check the date on the Nokians. But since the tire size isnt a high volume, they may have been old. When I get the 60k service done, I may ask for an alignment check. I could get some snow tires on cheap rims and just ignore the TPMS warning next winter.
Johnbuz is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:56 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.1
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Designed & Powered by Domain Architect